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	<title>Comments on: The crisis is far from over &#8211; debating alternatives</title>
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		<title>By: Mellie Agon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mellie Agon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People like &quot;Phil&quot; are always repeating their &quot;he lost&quot; mantra. In other words, he lost one election, therefore he is never allowed to comment on anything ever again!

Perhaps we should have applied that to the Tory party these last 12 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People like &#8220;Phil&#8221; are always repeating their &#8220;he lost&#8221; mantra. In other words, he lost one election, therefore he is never allowed to comment on anything ever again!</p>
<p>Perhaps we should have applied that to the Tory party these last 12 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Danielle Relation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danielle Relation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 19:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i like Ken Livingstone most of all his anti racism policies</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i like Ken Livingstone most of all his anti racism policies</p>
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		<title>By: TawkinSenz</title>
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		<dc:creator>TawkinSenz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Ken is saying needs to be said at the top - never mind the poxy London mayor, the Government should be listening as they are convinced you can &#039;talk your way into / out of a recession&#039;.

Baroness Vadera and her green shoots - 174 days and counting - and she is the the &#039;Business Minister&#039;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7828549.stm

Ken is also the first politician who I have heard since this crisis began - who actually seems to know what he&#039;s on about. 
Every MP, minister or &#039;expert&#039; seem to have forgotten (or never read) the surplus value theory and the idea of Overproduction (which is exactly what we have at the moment). All this talk about banks, regulation, CDO&#039;s - they&#039;re all thrown about like they are at fault - when the true culprit, this time and every other time, is the market Economy - or Capitalist economy.

His reference to the media is pertinent - as is his reference to 1929. If you read J.k.  Galbraith&#039;s &#039;The great crash&#039; you will see a reflection of today which is uncanny which occurred immediately after the first fall of 1929 - but before the big decline over the next 10 years.

The rate of decline is slowing
The recession is easing
The results are down - but not as bad as expected
The recession has bottomed out
The crash is over
The credit crunch is easing

....and on.....and on.....and on....

Take it from me - someone who has read up on the subject - the recession will end when the jobs stop being lost. This process has only just begun - so don&#039;t count your chickens.
Currently we are in what&#039;s known as a &#039;bear trap&#039; where the market thinks it&#039;s all over - but the market is not reflecting the underlying Economic data - which in the US in particular is dreadful.

We are being led by a set of people who have no idea about Macro-Economics, who are advised by people who only have their own self-interest at heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Ken is saying needs to be said at the top &#8211; never mind the poxy London mayor, the Government should be listening as they are convinced you can &#8216;talk your way into / out of a recession&#8217;.</p>
<p>Baroness Vadera and her green shoots &#8211; 174 days and counting &#8211; and she is the the &#8216;Business Minister&#8217;</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7828549.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7828549.stm</a></p>
<p>Ken is also the first politician who I have heard since this crisis began &#8211; who actually seems to know what he&#8217;s on about.<br />
Every MP, minister or &#8216;expert&#8217; seem to have forgotten (or never read) the surplus value theory and the idea of Overproduction (which is exactly what we have at the moment). All this talk about banks, regulation, CDO&#8217;s &#8211; they&#8217;re all thrown about like they are at fault &#8211; when the true culprit, this time and every other time, is the market Economy &#8211; or Capitalist economy.</p>
<p>His reference to the media is pertinent &#8211; as is his reference to 1929. If you read J.k.  Galbraith&#8217;s &#8216;The great crash&#8217; you will see a reflection of today which is uncanny which occurred immediately after the first fall of 1929 &#8211; but before the big decline over the next 10 years.</p>
<p>The rate of decline is slowing<br />
The recession is easing<br />
The results are down &#8211; but not as bad as expected<br />
The recession has bottomed out<br />
The crash is over<br />
The credit crunch is easing</p>
<p>&#8230;.and on&#8230;..and on&#8230;..and on&#8230;.</p>
<p>Take it from me &#8211; someone who has read up on the subject &#8211; the recession will end when the jobs stop being lost. This process has only just begun &#8211; so don&#8217;t count your chickens.<br />
Currently we are in what&#8217;s known as a &#8216;bear trap&#8217; where the market thinks it&#8217;s all over &#8211; but the market is not reflecting the underlying Economic data &#8211; which in the US in particular is dreadful.</p>
<p>We are being led by a set of people who have no idea about Macro-Economics, who are advised by people who only have their own self-interest at heart.</p>
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		<title>By: Leo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil

I guess he still cares.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil</p>
<p>I guess he still cares.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a sad world when Londons vision and leadership are provided by it&#039;s former mayor.

Cue posts of: you lost, get over it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a sad world when Londons vision and leadership are provided by it&#8217;s former mayor.</p>
<p>Cue posts of: you lost, get over it</p>
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